Does Any Airsoft Mock Silencers Have Baffles

Hey Guys, Im make new on this forum. With all the talk of the hearing protection act, I've started getting more interested in suppressors, and specifically making my own (I take experience with machining and general metalwork). I take used airsoft as a training method for some fourth dimension, and even have fun going out with my younger cousins airsofting from fourth dimension to time, so Im pretty familiar with the airsoft industry. Its no longer merely cheap junk beingness mass produced out of pot metallic in china, there are actually high-end airsoft manufacturers producing products out of quality steels and aluminum.

I own several airsoft "mock" suppressors that I have used in the past as barrel shrouds, but for aesthetics on my rifles, and Ive started thinking some of these higher-stop airsoft silencers could exist converted (With proper grade one of course) to the existent deal. Im writing this post to ask some of yous guys with more experience what you think of a few of these products. While nigh of the airsoft suppressors are only hollow tubes, Ive discovered some with what looks like realistic K baffles, from a high-stop manufacturer Eaiming. I have several products from this visitor, and they are extremely loftier quality. With pricing from $120-$200 you lot certainly tin expect some quality materials/manufacturing.

Hither are a few of them, provided these are legitimately steel, and of the stronger variety I think they could piece of work well:
http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p19403/EA ... _info.html
http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p17866/EA ... _info.html
http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/p20402/EA ... _info.html

These baffles look insanely (a bit frighteningly so) realistic:

If your sole intent on responding is to preach that I'm an idiot, and that "toys" don't belong effectually "real guns" y'all can save it. These products are not just toys anymore, many of these companies are producing items for LE and military training that are really college quality than the budget "real steel" parts sold at places like Palmetto, Primary, and Brownell's.

Otherwise, Thanks for your input!

Postal service by **fishman** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:xxx am

Your links are broken.

I think a 22LR silencer is doable from one of these. Unless hpa passes I wouldn't try it though. Non worth risking a $200 stamp on what MIGHT work when you could easily just build something that Will work.

I wouldn't even try a 223 silencer with these though. Unless these guys are telling you exactly what form of metal they're using, it'southward just non worth the risk of turning one into a grenade. At that place's a reason they are able to sell these cheap, my bet is that the metal isn't strong enough and/or also thin to be using on a medium to high power rifle.

Mail service by **T-Male monarch** » Monday Mar 06, 2017 11:43 am

I received 404 errors as well.
I volition say that the beginning prototype is naught more than than vented disks with conical chamber separators. Nothing extravagant, in terms of silencer pattern.
The 2d moving-picture show looks promising, provided the facial contour is congruent west/ similarly efficient designs.

As fishman stated, specific metal alloy would be a considering cistron.
Non to mention whether or non the tube is SMLS. 22lr shouldn't take an issue, but I'd steer articulate with college power cartridges.

Post past **sochmo** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:05 pm

fishman wrote:Your links are broken.

I call back a 22LR silencer is achievable from ane of these. Unless hpa passes I wouldn't endeavour it though. Not worth risking a $200 postage on what MIGHT work when you could easily just build something that Will work.

I wouldn't even try a 223 silencer with these though. Unless these guys are telling you exactly what grade of metal they're using, it's but not worth the risk of turning one into a grenade. At that place'south a reason they are able to sell these cheap, my bet is that the metal isn't stiff plenty and/or as well thin to exist using on a medium to high power rifle.

Thanks buddy, fixed the links. Yep thats what I was thinking. While this company does produce high-cease products information technology would be best to purchase information technology with the intentions of using if for 22lr. I have a buddy that has the proper equipment to fully examination metals, and so mayhap he could help me identify if it would be suitable for hotter armament. As far as being "cheap", they are really not so. The ones with only one baffle are around $eighty-$100, and the ones with multiple baffles range from $150-$220

Do you think purchasing something like this is asking for trouble with the ATF and customs? Should I expect to purchase it until my taxation stamp is approved? I'm not dumb plenty to machine annihilation until I have the stamp, only I'm wondering if even being in possession of this could have legal consequences, considering information technology uses standard 223 barrel threading, and could technically be put on a rifle out of the box...

Post by **sochmo** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:11 pm

T-Rex wrote:I received 404 errors too.
I will say that the first epitome is aught more than vented disks with conical chamber separators. Nothing extravagant, in terms of silencer design.
The second pic looks promising, provided the facial profile is coinciding westward/ similarly efficient designs.

Every bit fishman stated, specific metallic alloy would exist a considering factor.
Not to mention whether or not the tube is SMLS. 22lr shouldn't have an issue, merely I'd steer articulate with higher power cartridges.

Thanks buddy, yeah was thinking of this for 22lr until I can get information technology to my buddy to have the metallic tested to decide if its capable of handling hotter rounds. Every bit far as the tube, if its not a strong steel, would putting these baffles inside a 316, or Inconel steel tube still exist dangerous? I sympathise its non actually applied economically, just this is more of an experiment than anything else

Post by **fishman** » Monday Mar 06, 2017 1:41 pm

I did not realize that those pictures you posted were the airsoft silencers. In that location's no mode that's legal to import. I would non purchase any of these products. The bamboozle designs aren't even very good, but good enough to be classified equally silencer parts

Afterwards hpa passes, possibly. I don't know whether silencers will withal be considered firearms after information technology passes.

Postal service by **John A.** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:01 pm

HPA hasn't passed yet.

So, there's no way really of telling exactly how it's going to be worded until and if information technology really does. At this point, I am hundred-to-one at the rate Washington is going that it will ever pass, but just time will tell.

To my knowledge, suppressors are nonetheless going to be classified equally firearms nether the HPA, and if that is the case, even importing one of those would require more than licensing and permits than would be worth unless you plan on going in the business organization of importing and selling like Springfield Armory, Century International Arms, or whatever other visitor that solely imports guns.

Yes, they look like they would probably work for rimfire suppression provided they are the correct thread pitches and diameter diameters and such. Especially the latter ane.

No, I don't call back would be viable on a small scale. And non at all at this bespeak in fourth dimension.

Mail service by **sochmo** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:28 pm

fishman wrote:I did non realize that those pictures you posted were the airsoft silencers. There's no way that's legal to import. I would not buy any of these products. The bamboozle designs aren't even very good, just good plenty to exist classified every bit silencer parts

After hpa passes, perchance. I don't know whether silencers volition withal be considered firearms after it passes.

Damn I wonder how many airsoft kids have ordered these not realizing they were breaking federal law? Crazy

Mail service by **T-King** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 x:30 pm

Just in instance you're in the airsoft arena and people want to coerce you into assertive otherwise, yous can read information technology here

"Are Paintball and/or Airgun Sound Suppressers NFA firearms?

The terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the written report of a portable firearm, including whatsoever combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any function intended but for use in such assembly or fabrication.

Numerous paintball and airgun silencers tested past ATF's Firearms Technology Branch have been determined to be, by nature of their blueprint and function, firearm silencers. Because silencers are NFA weapons, an individual wishing to manufacture or transfer such a silencer must receive prior blessing from ATF and pay the required tax.

[26 The statesC. 5845; 27 CFR 479.eleven]

Last Reviewed September 23, 2016"

If you lot ware going to go through the process of acquiring a legal Form1, there will be plenty of us hither willing to offer help in designing a legal culling.

Mail by **sochmo** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:02 am

T-Rex wrote:Just in instance you lot're in the airsoft loonshit and people want to coerce you into assertive otherwise, yous can read it here

"Are Paintball and/or Airgun Sound Suppressers NFA firearms?

The terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" hateful any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the study of a portable firearm, including whatever combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and whatever function intended but for use in such assembly or fabrication.

Numerous paintball and airgun silencers tested by ATF's Firearms Technology Branch take been determined to exist, by nature of their design and office, firearm silencers. Because silencers are NFA weapons, an private wishing to manufacture or transfer such a silencer must receive prior blessing from ATF and pay the required tax.

[26 U.Southward.C. 5845; 27 CFR 479.11]

Last Reviewed September 23, 2016"

If y'all ware going to get through the process of acquiring a legal Form1, there volition be enough of united states here willing to offering help in designing a legal alternative.

Thanks for that info. This is kinda scary considering pretty much every airsofter I know owns at least 1 mock suppressor. I happen to ain 5 Im from the Anti-constitution state too, can't you look for Malloy to go the hell out of office??? I think the HPA should be passed within the adjacent year, and so I call up Sick just cross my fingers and hope I can do it legally presently enough without the tax postage. Why is information technology that suppressors are considered firearms anyways? I dont know how never knew this....

Post past **fishman** » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:37 am

sochmo wrote:

T-Rex wrote:Just in example you're in the airsoft loonshit and people want to coerce y'all into assertive otherwise, you can read it hither

"Are Paintball and/or Airgun Audio Suppressers NFA firearms?

The terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" hateful any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the study of a portable firearm, including whatever combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for apply in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended simply for employ in such assembly or fabrication.

Numerous paintball and airgun silencers tested by ATF'southward Firearms Applied science Branch have been adamant to be, by nature of their design and part, firearm silencers. Because silencers are NFA weapons, an private wishing to manufacture or transfer such a silencer must receive prior approval from ATF and pay the required tax.

[26 UsaC. 5845; 27 CFR 479.11]

Final Reviewed September 23, 2016"

If y'all ware going to go through the procedure of acquiring a legal Form1, there will be plenty of us here willing to offering help in designing a legal alternative.

Thanks for that info. This is kinda scary considering pretty much every airsofter I know owns at least ane mock suppressor. I happen to own 5 Im from the Anti-constitution state likewise, can't yous expect for Malloy to get the hell out of office??? I think the HPA should exist passed inside the side by side year, so I think Ill just cross my fingers and hope I can exercise it legally soon plenty without the tax stamp. Why is it that suppressors are considered firearms anyways? I dont know how never knew this....

I used to accept a mock suppressor when I played airsoft. It didn't take baffles or even whatever hollowed out space in it beyond what was needed for the bb to pass through. I've never seen i for auction in the US that had baffles.

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